I was playing around with battlemages in a seal of the righteous style build. Seal benefits from SP more then AP by default and can trigger on smite with a judgement talent. It was very weak on AoE.

If I remember correctly: When you cast a spell your auto attack begins its internal cooldown until next hit after the spell ends. Instead with battlemage, if the internal aa cd is done, the auto happens after spell cast ends.

So we would need to line up our auto attack swings to be slightly under our spamming spells. Or a rotation that benefits from cast bar into instant cast for the global window.

Possibly a poison and nature dmg, seals & holy, or firebrand and fire. Or any REs that combine them.

Does that help?

@Malorien As its written right now, it looks like you would just make a fire based enhancement shaman and push button on proc. I absolutely love the idea of theme'ing something around the elemental lords so I have a few idea to help inspire something more unique for gameplay.

• If we're gonna be based on a fire element lord. We can have the RE modify and use the fire elemental totem.
• His abilities from MC and Firelands raids suggest we should do a Targeted Blast wave (Hand of Ragnaros). Not great for PvE or if you're melee. So maybe a knock up?
• The most iconic moments of Ragnaros is being rooted to one spot. What if our abilities created pools of lava tethering us to the elemental plane of fire and stacked our Might of Sulfuras buff? Maybe at the cost of movement speed or health, and "Hand of Ragnaros" launches us(or speed boost while remove lava speed debuff) as either AoE dmg or escape from our own lava pools?
• I agree 100% that Sulfarus smash needs to be your WHAMH button and feel great to press. We might want to add some ticking DoT to all our fire damage that we can interact with
• Looking at Blizzard's moba Heroes of the Storm. Ragnaros has abilities like a rolling meteor, Next auto attack Does fire damage in an AoE & heals. A targeted buff that increases movement speed and then explodes, which can shield. An ice block in the form of dipping in the lava pool. Lava wave which is shared theme with firelands Ragnaros. If we want to more heavily barrow from this kit we could:
  • Theme the build around burning and hurting yourself to deal more damage. Your AoEs shield & heal you.
  • Include more Lava theme waves
  • Possibly make an RE with an optional Righteous Fury to turn the RE into a tank or dps LRE

@Malorien Look forward to seeing what you come up with. I'm not as familiar with the other elemental lords but I imagine the wind one can be based around agility, dashes, and lightning damage. Maybe even a stacking buff static electricity for moving. For all of us who spam strafe left-right all day.

Incredibly bloated with text and sharing a bit too much with the Flaming Templar for a melee fire user, I've thrown together a "Hurt yourself to hurt them to protect yourself to hurt them".

Cast fire spells to apply DoTs, use warrior physical skills to extend DoT at cost of its damage. Shaman spells to consume DoTs for bonus damage that hurts you. Fire ward to stop yourself from burning to death and give a small damage boost. Alternate effect for righteous fury tank.

Obvious flaws, we need to restrict fire spells apply Be Purged Insect to direct damage & mage spells or remove the option for flame shock to apply it. I couldn't fit in lava pools as much as I wanted, maybe its fire crits that drop a pool? Its open ended for all warrior & fire skills. idk, just fun throwing ideas around. Let me know if any of these concepts suite your fancy

Edit: I was suppose to do something where stagger instead gave you stacks of BE PURGED INSECT but I'm lazy?

@Malorien As its written right now, it looks like you would just make a fire based enhancement shaman and push button on proc. I absolutely love the idea of theme'ing something around the elemental lords so I have a few idea to help inspire something more unique for gameplay.

• If we're gonna be based on a fire element lord. We can have the RE modify and use the fire elemental totem.
• His abilities from MC and Firelands raids suggest we should do a Targeted Blast wave (Hand of Ragnaros). Not great for PvE or if you're melee. So maybe a knock up?
• The most iconic moments of Ragnaros is being rooted to one spot. What if our abilities created pools of lava tethering us to the elemental plane of fire and stacked our Might of Sulfuras buff? Maybe at the cost of movement speed or health, and "Hand of Ragnaros" launches us(or speed boost while remove lava speed debuff) as either AoE dmg or escape from our own lava pools?
• I agree 100% that Sulfarus smash needs to be your WHAMH button and feel great to press. We might want to add some ticking DoT to all our fire damage that we can interact with
• Looking at Blizzard's moba Heroes of the Storm. Ragnaros has abilities like a rolling meteor, Next auto attack Does fire damage in an AoE & heals. A targeted buff that increases movement speed and then explodes, which can shield. An ice block in the form of dipping in the lava pool. Lava wave which is shared theme with firelands Ragnaros. If we want to more heavily barrow from this kit we could:
  • Theme the build around burning and hurting yourself to deal more damage. Your AoEs shield & heal you.
  • Include more Lava theme waves
  • Possibly make an RE with an optional Righteous Fury to turn the RE into a tank or dps LRE

Are you trying to launch Area 52 in ptr launcher somehow? Thats the primary suspect but i dont think you can do that?

@Losdow Drop down menu above the "Play now"/Update Button

@Vaellian Could be a bug with daggers. I tried it on a 1.8sec mainhand axe and needed battlemage to trigger auto after finishing cast

I was playing around with battlemages in a seal of the righteous style build. Seal benefits from SP more then AP by default and can trigger on smite with a judgement talent. It was very weak on AoE.

If I remember correctly: When you cast a spell your auto attack begins its internal cooldown until next hit after the spell ends. Instead with battlemage, if the internal aa cd is done, the auto happens after spell cast ends.

So we would need to line up our auto attack swings to be slightly under our spamming spells. Or a rotation that benefits from cast bar into instant cast for the global window.

Possibly a poison and nature dmg, seals & holy, or firebrand and fire. Or any REs that combine them.

Does that help?

As someone who has bought items from the donation store and AH, I appreciates that its there. Having the option to grind money ingame to get something of the AH gives me a personal player objective to increase my joy from the game and grants the seller a quick gold dump. I'm not well versed in the server economics but I think this system works even more so with the division of fresh season servers and Area 52.

Sidenote: We have reliable methods of pve gold farming like steamvaults & stratholme. Part of your daily entertainment can be making the 'best' or 'most fun' AoE farming build and having a character purely for that.

I agree with Lauste that righteous fury doesnt lock you into holy themes. There is still a fun brainstorming session on what new RE could bring to a shaman themed tank. For me, retail has trained me to see shamans as 60% lightning, 20% water, and 10% fire/earth. I dont feel wind themed from windfury or windshock aa much as hurricane and typhon. So lets look at possible earth re interactions.

Instead of using block, lets interact with some kind of new earth shield that does damage mitigation and make earthbiter a requirement to trigger it, for parry and mfb shaman. This RE would increase threat while earth biter is on or still use rightfury and earth biter lowers your dps so that when you smash your enemies with stone, fragments that fly off and surround you for a small barrier bubble

• When your earth shield triggers, gain (Blank). Maelstorm with rockbiter? Could barrow some dk bone shiwld mechanics

• Muddy earth, dmg with earth spells apply a minor slow or reduce attack power. we could theme earth shamans around making temporary hazardous terrain, kiting, debuffs, with stone wall moments at the cost of dmg output.

• Totem golems: stationary elementals that cost your earth shield charges, refreshing earthshield dismisses the totems. up to three totems active at once. We can make these elementals improved version of earth totems. One generates aoe threat, earth shock it to taunt nearest 2 mobs. One generates aoe barrier bubbles. one slows in aoe.
  Earth shocking any totem pulses that 2 person taunt and totems return fheir earth shield cost on death or range leash.

Obviously the idea isnt balance, id more like to hear about how youd theme a shaman or earthbender tank. Also yes, sundering is fun

Edit for funny idea and not my spelling errors:
Imagine if you could create temporary walls in a V formation, open at the bottom. On demand bottle neck and line of sight pulling. Dont know if our game engine can even do that and plenty of negative use cases for player griefing. Still fun to think about. Maybe instead we just take torgasts los cloud as a shaman dust cloud...

@EmeraldCore
End of the day are we raiding? Pvping? dungeons? Just having fun?

RE Spectre: seams like a pvp talent but DoTs do 10% more damaged while stealth. Fits the theme of dot and disappear (Having a pet out for pve to keep it from reseting)

RE Consumed by shadow: leaving stealth puts you in shadow form, your spells deal bonus damage coming out of stealth. Fits the theme to DoT, stealth, unstealth into mage

RE Shroud of concealment: Stay in stealth for 1 bonus second if you break stealth with a mage spell. Wonder if we can work a rotation around DoTing up, stealthing, and then doing a long mage cast in stealth to not have much downtime? Don't think there is a great option here.

Legendary RE: Curse of Arugal: Combines shadow priest & Feral cat playstyles. I havn't used this one yet but that can get you into combo point using abilities & spells. It's likely a 'stance' so it wont work with shadowform

We have a few REs and talents that work around 'shadow dance'. In ascension you can type any word into the character advancement search box or RE search box to find even partial text within the description.

Legendary RE: Master of shadows: This is more of a shadow damage rogue that works with instant cast shadowbolts. It could be a fun base tho.

I'm just searching the words "Stealth" "Shadow dance" "ambush" "Garrote" in the RE interface to see what comes out. You might be able to make a DoT based Shadow dancing vanish boy