Why are they only making a fresh draft realm?
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I feel like, theyre trying to get me to play draft, instead of free pick, cause they make more money on that game type. Kinda sad theyre trying to cash out, when free pick is way better.
Unlucky scamscension
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@1337pete The draft play style gives a fresh feel to the game for a lot of people. I think many people find draft more enjoyable and thats why the seasonal league normally more heavily populated.
Area 52 is free pick and no-one is forcing you to play draft. To call ascension a cash grab is ridiculous. Last time I checked you don't have to pay $15/month to play it.
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Here's my issue with this situation. If people like draft, that's all well and good but they need to stop sacrificing Area 52 for it. I play free pick. I won't play anything else. I expected the updates from season 7 after that season was over and DIDN'T GET IT. Now we have moved on to season 8 and I'm still waiting on the supposed updates that should have been ready for Area 52 that they once again put in the background for everything else. I won't bother to play this game until they come correct.
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@drow21 This is an understandable request but it's not as if they have unlimited resources. They are prioritizing the seasonal realms and until that is running smooth, it's unlikely that they will divert assets to Area 52. This is actually proven to be a more effective way to draw in player on other seasonal games, ie PoE Diablo 3.
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@SteadyPenguin Is it worth trying to garner more players by causing CURRENT players to lose interest in the game? There are certain things that I wanted from season 7 that I waited 3 months for and stopped playing the game until that time because I didn't want to progress without the builds I had in mind but now it's just oh well I guess...
Perhaps you can explain why it's so difficult to transfer some talents and skills over that should already be balanced for Area 52 as Alar was basically the same minus the draft aspect? If they have time to merge the 2, how is it that merging the talents and spells are a challenge? I mean - I'm not a programmer so perhaps you can explain why it's such an impossible task?
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I'm not a fan of Draft mode, after trying it out. The last 3 times I levelled up I got the most useless selection of abilities to choose from, and it kills my interest in the character. I've deleted it and will try another and hope for better luck I suppose. As an aside, if I have an interest in a character I will happily spend money on it, as per the other servers, but on this one I haven't felt sufficient interest in buying anything for them.
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@Kaggen My thoughts exactly. I don't understand how people find that play style riveting but I suppose many do and I really don't even care. I just want Area 52 to stop being treated like the red-headed step child...
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Draft mode is the only one that interests me in the slightest. It's more fun when you and your fellow players are bonding through the struggle of getting shit rolls every lvlup, vs the boring min/max same-as-retail-ey-ness of Area 52. It encourages use of Prestige and keeps dungeons alive constantly.
A fresh start counterpart to Area 52 would only split the playerbase and most of them would min/max their way to the same spot they're at now anyways. Plus, unlike most pservs, it's nice to have a place you know yours chars will still be later.
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I'm not really keen on Area 52 either, because cherry-picking the best abilities and talents is going too far in the other direction. I do enjoy short spells playing on it though, because at lest it's not as frustrating as draft mode.
However, Rexxar suits me fine, as the 21 character classes are more interesting in the long run for me. I'll stick with that, long term. -
@drow21 Dude, my old S7 Draft Builds, that are literally Unplayable on Area52, got Sacrificed with the Area 52 merge!
So where is my "justice"?
And Freepick is trash anyways. Everyone plays the same cheese and everyone needs to use the same cherrypicked Abilities.
The problem is: People who start on "freepick" are feeling Draft is shit and they will never understand the pros about it.
People who start playing Draft first, will never stick around on the boring ass "Standard" realm. That server is like on PoE's standard realm. Noone cares about it... Its cheesed trash where the allmighty day 1 players can swing their dicks with all their Gold/Gear/DP-Items and gimmics...
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@Kaggen -> Drayth got it to the point:
"Draft mode is the only one that interests me in the slightest. It's more fun when you and your fellow players are bonding through the struggle of getting shit rolls every lvlup, vs the boring min/max same-as-retail-ey-ness of Area 52. It encourages use of Prestige and keeps dungeons alive constantly."
As I said, Area52 is the cherry picking cheesers trying to show off their BiS items in BGs and are toxic and Sweaty. not a good place to hang around.
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@Badgoy said in Why are they only making a fresh draft realm?:
@Kaggen -> Drayth got it to the point:
"Draft mode is the only one that interests me in the slightest. It's more fun when you and your fellow players are bonding through the struggle of getting shit rolls every lvlup, vs the boring min/max same-as-retail-ey-ness of Area 52. It encourages use of Prestige and keeps dungeons alive constantly."
As I said, Area52 is the cherry picking cheesers trying to show off their BiS items in BGs and are toxic and Sweaty. not a good place to hang around.
...and as I had already said "I'm not really keen on Area 52 either, because cherry-picking the best abilities and talents is going too far in the other direction."
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@Badgoy
Something suits everyone differently, I play everything and most of all I enjoy collecting and crafting and at the same time I write on the forum what I think could help the gameAnd otherwise, A52 is not hostile, only that during the merger we expected to get more and not just 50% of what you had on the alar, so don't be surprised that some were hostile.
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@Badgoy As I was saying, I DON'T CARE if people prefer draft over freepick. I find draft stupid as a PERSONAL opinion just as you view freepick. My only concern is that Area 52 suffers as a result, period. Where is my justice for having to wait perhaps 6+ mo for something I should have already received and prepared to make plans around??? Yes - it's crap that they forced people who liked draft to merge with 52. I don't know why they would do that if draft were so popular? They certainly gave draft everything first before 52. Was it an attempt to garner interest in the server? Didn't work obviously...
Also as an aside, when I first started playing on Ascension, I didn't realize that Area 52 was the freepick server which is what drew me to this platform in the first place. I chose Alar as an accident and instantly disliked it. So your extrapolation of people starting on certain servers ending up preferring that playstyle doesn't hold water. It's what the individual likes that determines their choice.
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@drow21 As I said, where is my Justice as Conquest of Azeroth player (Supporter/Donator)...
The Dev team has to prioritize the project where their Income comes from. (as in any other game)
Fact is, A52 is "the boring realm" (same as Standard in PoE) there is not many people and therefore there is not much money coming from it.I would also Prefer Thrall to be BC only I dont like Vanilla WoW at all. Heck, I would love, that WotlK would be finally finished. But there is not enough Manpower to go that fast.
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@drow21
Well, if I remember correctly, at the very beginning there was a freepick, only then they added a draft server and there was also a 3rd server as a season (test) so I kind of understand
and at the same time I don't know why they don't do anything on A52 and that the A52 server where the players who play with them they've been there since the beginning (mostly) and actually the A52 is almost dead again just because dedicated players want to know what to add there (maybe) (during the merger we got less than what was on the Alar )And in my opinion, it would probably be better to give 3 servers (as at the beginning) 1x freepick 1x draft and 1x Season with test and functions of both (freepick and draft) (which you can choose).
And for balance freepick = skills have Abilities have a different price, which means blink = -5 points, but in draft have all skills at -2 points = as a result, a draft player can have more skills (but again limited by rarity, which freepick does not have, but can have)And if they don't want to have so many servers, then 1x with the functions of both + 1x season with the functions of both (for testing new game systems) (max. 6 months per test)
And further, I would rather focus on pvp balance, so that CC (stun, fear, horror, root, ... skills should have that if you use the second such skill, then all the others you know will share the CD, this should prevent that, for example stun was abused against players (normal wow class has less CC than we can have here)
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@Badgoy
Thrall is Vanilla only becose they need test new systems and REs (WREs) -
@WiliemDemon it will go to TBC later or not? Because if not, I instantly stop playing. I only wait there till Conquest of Azeroth updates / TBC S8 Release
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@Badgoy yes it will be TBC
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