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    • AnnatarielA
      Annatariel
      last edited by Annatariel

      Like many, I moved from Malganis to Area52 to discover that your epic item from vanilla do not work fully in TBC. Their RE do not work and you had a debuff -5% dmg when having one equipped.

      Today, im prestiging and I discover that NOW you dont have only -5% debuff, you have -2% per item. Do not know if that was a bug before to make it only -5% but now its -32%.

      One of the best thing the Burning Crusade expension had comapare to all other expansionwas that it did not invalid completly what was before, you could do the first Raid in full Naxx gear.

      Due to prestige, Ascension was even better at keeping the past expension relevent trough lvling gear. I would understand if the debuff was in PVP for balancing issue, but it is not.

      Right now, I can go prestige in PVP with my Nax gear and destroy every one, but I can't in PVE, what? because its unfair to the mobs?

      Sorry, I do not understand that descision. Undo it or do it only in PVP but damn the fact that your epic gear is worst than grey quality item feels so bad.

      Fadrius, champion of justice main and scarab lord
      (yes I got it and I'm gonna flex on you... I'm sorry...)

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      • AnnatarielA
        Annatariel
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        Update: so today they changed it, now you can still use your RE (thats better) but the debuff is now 3% per item. That is even worst. I'm saying again, why do you want lvl60 green item to be better than the most difficult raid item from vanilla.

        Please remove that debuff or please explain to us why was it so important to make those difficulte to ear item irrelevent?

        Fadrius, champion of justice main and scarab lord
        (yes I got it and I'm gonna flex on you... I'm sorry...)

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          Taliesin @Annatariel
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          @Annatariel Saw a player with this debuff today and had to Google it and your post is the only thing I saw.

          Seems WAY past time for this to be removed.

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          • UdenU
            Uden @Taliesin
            last edited by Uden

            @Taliesin Yeah I don't really understand it either. Unless it's to hamper the player for some kind of monetary reason.

            As far as I can remember when Ascension first came out, it was PvP mandatory, with no real way to turn it off. Maybe they just hate PvEr's?

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              Taliesin @Uden
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              @Uden My understanding is that they added this when TBC came out and then just never removed it. I blame developer inertia.

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                WiliemDemon @Taliesin
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                @Taliesin
                Yes, it's the dumbest thing they've done, and it also partially killed high risk pvp right away in the first zones (especially when it was +- the first month they gave the TBC update) because it was more profitable to sell everything you've farmed for the last six months and buy any other stuff from NPCs or rare items from the auction (and at that time transmog was still made using those stupid runes, so you lost all the sets from nax (I had them all on 3 characters 😄 )) and that was and is also the reason why no one returns to do any vanilla content.

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                • UdenU
                  Uden @Taliesin
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                  @Taliesin Ah, I gotcha. Yeah I wasn't around for that. I had taken an extended hiatus. 😛

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